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GUEST COMMENT: You really don't need a graduate training programme to get into investment banking

Are you currently a student? Someone who wants to get into finance, maybe investment banking? If so, you're probably spending a lot of time filling in forms, worrying about which 'key words' to use and how to make a job in the local Tesco sound relevant to your career goals.

But do you really want to spend between one and three years being patronised by HR, and ignored at best (or abused at worst) by the business? In my long experience of working on trading floors, this is what being a graduate trainee all too often involves.

You don't? Then may I suggest that you take advantage of the fact that investment banks are fabulously fluid places for people with contacts, intelligence, and a willingness to work hard.

DON'T aim to start off where you want to end up

If you really think you want to be a trader, you don't have to start out on a trading desk.

Get a job, any job, somewhere in an investment bank.

Banks regularly look for temps, and even offer some perm posts doing seriously glamour free roles: managing databases, DTP, cost management, etc.

Get through the door, work really hard and make yourself indispensable to as many people as possible. The more contacts you have speaking up for you, the more able you are going to be to move around in the future.

DON'T be blinded by brands

The big investment banks (especially the HR departments) love their grad programmes. This is because sorting through all those thousands fo applications helps to remind them just how successful, desirable, and important they are (and in the case of some HR, give them a justification for their continued existence).

Big banks are great places to work, but so are many of the much smaller, less well known banks. These smaller players have the added advantages of fewer applicants, business people who are likely to be less up themselves and a bit more willing to spend time with you, and HR departments with less time to spend putting you through psychometric testing.

In addition, the friends that you make at a smaller house, will inevitably move on and become valuable contacts elsewhere.

DO use your skills where they will be needed most

The back office is not glamorous, but it's easy to shine and it provides great access to the front office. Many front office managers are so dissatisfied with the service they get from their back office counterparts that they hang on to anyone who listens and produces what they need. If you can be that person, they will be forever in your debt. The back office is also a great place to learn how to make things work (and to observe what goes wrong when they don't).

Once you're in...

...network and build contacts everywhere with everyone (in and out of the office), learn the language and the structure of the business (it'll be roughly the same in most places), and work as hard as you can to build a strong reputation as a deliverer. Assuming that most grad programmes take two years, you'll be in your second job with a professional reputation and none of the hang-ups of the grads by the time they're released onto the floor.

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  • Sa
    Sarah, Editor, eFinancialCaree
    22 January 2010

    @Grad Recruiter - the author's a senior banker in a US bank. He was in a front office markets role, now in ops.

  • Gr
    Grad Recruiter
    22 January 2010

    Before I comment on this article, may I know what background the Author has? many of the points raised are at best far reached and others are total nonsense!

  • Do
    Donotagree
    18 January 2010

    I work for the front (investment manager) and i disagree: i have respect for people in the back because the job is difficult so if i have someone doing really good back office stuff for me i prefer to see him stay in place and rely on him instead of losing him in the event of a move to the front. So if people know you are good at what you are doing in the back, it could well be your doom...

  • ba
    back office to front office
    17 January 2010

    Is it really that easy to move from back office to front office, it was strongly advised against in previous articles written on the site.

  • Bo
    Bonjo
    15 January 2010

    He speakath the truth, grad schemes are great but equally you can end up with 4x6months experience in random jobs and no one knows what to do with you at the end of it. Back to front is tricky, just keep your eyes on the prize.

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